réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Hi all! Instead of upgrading from 12.something to 13.1 I decided to do a fresh install. It went well the 1st day, everything was working fine. The next day I decided to check for updates. It took over 3 hours. After I rebooted I ended up with a black screen and a prompt. I logged in as rejean with my password. Then I tried "startx" and I am now getting these messages; /usr/bin/startx line 208: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device same thing for 2 mores lines. Then I get: Fatal server error: (EE) Cannot move old log file "/var/log/Xorg.log" to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old" and: xinit failed. /usr/bin/Xorg is not setuid,maybe that's the reason? If so either use a display manager (strongly recommended) or adjust /etc/permissions.local When I installed OpenSuSE 13.1 on /dev/sdb2 (31 GB) I formatted the partition but did not formatted the /home partition ( /dev/sdb1 50 GB). I could download a new installation, burn it on a usb stick and reinstall but I am guessing that after the update/upgrade I would get the same problem. What do you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Hi all! Instead of upgrading from 12.something to 13.1 I decided to do a fresh install. It went well the 1st day, everything was working fine. The next day I decided to check for updates. It took over 3 hours. After I rebooted I ended up with a black screen and a prompt. I logged in as rejean with my password. Then I tried "startx" and I am now getting these messages; same thing for 2 mores lines. Then I get: and: When I installed OpenSuSE 13.1 on /dev/sdb2 (31 GB) I formatted the partition but did not formatted the /home partition ( /dev/sdb1 50 GB). I could download a new installation, burn it on a usb stick and reinstall but I am guessing that after the update/upgrade I would get the same problem. What do you suggest? The first thing you need to do is determine what device is out of room. Boot the CD or DVD and run whatever partition manager it uses to check which device is out of room. If it is the root partition then you obviously need to create a larger partition. From your post, I'm assuming you have a separate home partition. If that is the one running out of room, you may be able to delete enough from it to cure the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Thanks lewmur! In the meantime I mounted the / partition in PCLinuxOS and I found something that might be odd; [root@localhost rejean]# cd /mnt/suse/var/log [root@localhost log]# ls -l total 27767736 -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jul 19 17:57 acpid -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15706 Jul 19 18:46 alternatives.log drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 27 06:24 apparmor/ drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Sep 28 2013 audit/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 116917 Jul 18 13:05 boot.kiwi -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 2014 boot.log -rw------- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:27 btmp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 6 2013 config.log drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 3 13:24 ConsoleKit/ drwxr-xr-x 2 lp lp 4096 Mar 4 05:46 cups/ -rw------- 1 root root 32000 Jul 19 18:52 faillog -rw-r----- 1 root root 15721 Jul 20 13:53 firewall drwx--x--x 2 root ntools 4096 Jul 22 2014 gdm/ drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Nov 27 2013 krb5/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 292292 Jul 22 2014 lastlog -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8192 Jul 22 2014 localmessages -rw-r----- 1 root root 4096 Jul 22 2014 mail -rw-r----- 1 root root 1885 Jul 22 2014 mail.err -rw-r----- 1 root root 4096 Jul 22 2014 mail.info -rw-r----- 1 root root 1885 Jul 22 2014 mail.warn -rw-r----- 1 root root 77824 Jul 22 2014 messages -rw-r----- 1 root root 387144 Jul 19 20:45 messages-20140719.xz -rw-r----- 1 root root 28431433728 Jul 21 19:30 messages-20140721 -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jul 21 19:30 messages-20140721.xz -rw-r----- 1 root root 35166 Jul 19 17:57 NetworkManager drwxr-x--- 2 news news 4096 Nov 6 2013 news/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Nov 6 2013 ntp -rw------- 1 root root 967272 Jul 19 19:02 pbl.log -rw-r----- 1 root users 240537 Jul 20 03:06 pk_backend_zypp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 20 03:19 pm-powersave.log drwxr-x--- 3 root root 4096 Jun 23 13:10 samba/ drwxr-x--- 2 root 16 4096 Sep 27 2013 smpppd/ -rw-r----- 1 root users 6650 Jul 19 19:59 snapper.log drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Oct 1 2013 speech-dispatcher/ drwxr-x--- 2 root root 4096 Jun 4 10:13 sssd/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 401408 Jul 22 2014 warn -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 880 Jul 22 2014 wpa_supplicant.log -rw-rw-r-- 1 root cdrom 40704 Jul 22 2014 wtmp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 2014 Xorg.0.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:52 Xorg.0.log.old -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 2014 Xorg.1.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:43 Xorg.1.log.old -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 2014 Xorg.2.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:45 Xorg.2.log.old -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 2014 Xorg.3.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:45 Xorg.3.log.old -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 2014 Xorg.4.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:45 Xorg.4.log.old -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 2014 Xorg.5.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:45 Xorg.5.log.old drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Jul 21 21:47 YaST2/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 20 09:55 zypp/ -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jul 22 01:32 zypper.log [root@localhost log] Why should I have so many Xorg files in /var/log? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 @ lewmur; I do have 18.5 GB free out of 49.1 GB for my /home but 0 byte free out of 30.9 GB for my / partition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Also, what do you mean by the word, Device? Is that what is being reported specifically? lewmur is right, need to see the partitions and see where the problem lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Run fsck on both the root and home partitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Whoa! That's a lot of space to be eaten up by / partition. Did you install EVERYTHING? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 @ lewmur; I do have 18.5 GB free out of 49.1 GB for my /home but 0 byte free out of 30.9 GB for my / partition. I'd bet you have a corrupt file system on the / partition. Running fsck on that partition should fix it. I don't know of any Linux distro that won't fit on an 8gb partition for both home and /. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 All I installed is what came with the openSUSE-13.1-GNOME-Live-x86_64.iso. and it shouldn't take up that much space. @ fran. I wrote down what I saw on the screen after I tried to "startx". @ lewmur. from pclinuxos; [root@localhost log]# fsck /mnt/suse fsck from util-linux 2.22.2 e2fsck 1.42.9 (28-Dec-2013) fsck.ext2: Is a directory while trying to open /mnt/suse The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device> [root@localhost log]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 here; [root@localhost rejean]# fsck /dev/sdb1 fsck from util-linux 2.22.2 e2fsck 1.42.9 (28-Dec-2013) /dev/sdb1: recovering journal Setting free inodes count to 1941106 (was 1941105) /dev/sdb1: clean, 127422/2068528 files, 8254975/8259072 blocks [root@localhost rejean]# fsck /dev/sdb2 fsck from util-linux 2.22.2 e2fsck 1.42.9 (28-Dec-2013) /dev/sdb2: recovering journal /dev/sdb2: clean, 24897/3276800 files, 8050935/13107200 blocks What next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 sorry fran. I forgot one line when I posted the message I am getting. After the line " /usr/bin/startx line 208: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device" there is another one that says; xauth: file /home/rejean/.Xauthority does not exist Then another line starts " /usr/bin/startx line 225: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Can you post the output from df -f ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 sorry josh but "df -f" what? I'm not sure what to do?: [root@localhost rejean]# df -f df: invalid option -- 'f' Try 'df --help' for more information. [root@localhost rejean]# df-f bash: df-f: command not found [root@localhost rejean]# df -a Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb14 22G 6.4G 15G 31% / fusectl 0 0 0 - /sys/fs/fuse/connections none 0 0 0 - /proc none 0 0 0 - /dev/pts /dev/sdb13 44G 9.4G 35G 22% /home none 0 0 0 - /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc [root@localhost rejean]# df -a /dev/sdb1 Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on - 3.9G 852K 3.9G 1% /dev [root@localhost rejean]# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/suse [root@localhost rejean]# df -f /mnt/suse df: invalid option -- 'f' Try 'df --help' for more information. [root@localhost rejean]# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Was that one of those iffy drives? It really does sound like lewmur is right about the / partition being corrupted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 No fran this is my good Sata 1tb drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Wow...wonder how it got corrupted then....if that is in fact what's wrong. I would remove that partition and try again! Something went seriously wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 You're right Fran. I think it is a botched upgrade because after I installed it with the linux 3.11.6-4-desktop kernel everything worked okay but with the linux 3.11.10-17-desktop kernel everything got corrupted like you say, including the previous kernel because if I choose to boot with the advance option and choose the previous kernel I still end-up with a login prompt. I'll probably reinstall tomorrow unless someone as another crack at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Someone else noticed the following in my /var/log; -rw-r----- 1 root root 28431433728 Jul 21 19:30 messages-20140721 that's 28 GB right? but how did it get there and how to get rid of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Someone else noticed the following in my /var/log; -rw-r----- 1 root root 28431433728 Jul 21 19:30 messages-20140721 that's 28 GB right? but how did it get there and how to get rid of it? I'm with Fran on this. Apparently something hiccuped during the download and install of the updates to create a bogus 28gb file. I see no choice but to start over and install the OS from scratch. At least you didn't appear to lose your home partition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) One last attempt before reinstalling just for the sake of learning. How could I delete the root root folder? Never mind! I am burning the image and will reinstall later tonight. Thanks everyone! Edited July 22, 2014 by réjean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) You could do it with fdisk, or with a LiveCD or LiveUSB like GParted. But! But if you are confused as to which partition is which, you could remove the wrong one and lose your PCLOS too. I hope you wrote down all the partitions and which drives they are on, and which partition number they are and the sizes to double check. Edited July 22, 2014 by LilBambi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Don't worry fran I've been using the same partitions for the last 2 years at least and I do have at least 3 more working distros; Mageia, Ubuntu and Mint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrke Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I got a kernel panic a couple of months ago after openSuSE upgraded from 3.11.10.7 to 3.11.10.11. Unlike you, I could still boot into 3.11.10.7 however, and the problem cured itself in a few weeks after the next kernel upgrade. First time I ever had problems with openSuSE updates. Very strange. :'( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LilBambi Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Wow, maybe that's the trick. Install again, and don't reboot till you get all the updates LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Someone somewhere else suggested that if I don't want to format my /home partition I should at least delete all the hidden files and folders that start with ".". Has anyone heard of that before? Anyway this is what I did and I reinstalled. Right now I am using the 3.11.6-4-desktop kernel. Should I dare updating ( which will mean upgrading)? Right now my / partition has 28 something free GB and my home 21 GB. What more can happen beside a messed up system again. I should add that I am replying from OpenSuSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Someone somewhere else suggested that if I don't want to format my /home partition I should at least delete all the hidden files and folders that start with ".". Has anyone heard of that before? Anyway this is what I did and I reinstalled. Right now I am using the 3.11.6-4-desktop kernel. Should I dare updating ( which will mean upgrading)? Right now my / partition has 28 something free GB and my home 21 GB. What more can happen beside a messed up system again. I should add that I am replying from OpenSuSE. Your browser,email and several others wanted folders are "." folders, so that's not a good idea. Edited July 23, 2014 by lewmur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 sorry josh but "df -f" what? I'm not sure what to do?: My bad...it is df -h 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Your browser,email and several others wanted folders are "." folders, so that's not a good idea. He said that thunderbird was an exception. Anyway I didn't use to delete anything and sometimes everything went well other times it was catastrophic. So go figure. [/size] My bad...it is df -h No problem josh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réjean Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Before the install finishes, in case something goes bad again; rejean@linux-wm43MT-S2PT:~> df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 31G 3.7G 27G 13% / devtmpfs 3.9G 40K 3.9G 1% /dev tmpfs 3.9G 84K 3.9G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 3.9G 14M 3.9G 1% /run tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 3.9G 14M 3.9G 1% /var/run tmpfs 3.9G 14M 3.9G 1% /var/lock /dev/sdb2 50G 29G 20G 59% /home /dev/sdb13 44G 9.4G 35G 22% /mnt/pclos rejean@linux-wm43MT-S2PT:~> after an hour still at the 68 % total progress, updating sloooowly. after 2 hours still at 70%. Now why does it take about 20 min to download and less than 30 min to install but over 2 hours to update/upgrade is what I would like to know. Edited July 23, 2014 by réjean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewmur Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Before the install finishes, in case something goes bad again; rejean@linux-wm43MT-S2PT:~> df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 31G 3.7G 27G 13% / devtmpfs 3.9G 40K 3.9G 1% /dev tmpfs 3.9G 84K 3.9G 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 3.9G 14M 3.9G 1% /run tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 3.9G 14M 3.9G 1% /var/run tmpfs 3.9G 14M 3.9G 1% /var/lock /dev/sdb2 50G 29G 20G 59% /home /dev/sdb13 44G 9.4G 35G 22% /mnt/pclos rejean@linux-wm43MT-S2PT:~> after an hour still at the 68 % total progress, updating sloooowly. after 2 hours still at 70%. Now why does it take about 20 min to download and less than 30 min to install but over 2 hours to update/upgrade is what I would like to know. Because copying from a DVD is much faster than downloading. Though only 2% progress in an hour does seem odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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