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#1 OFFLINE   amenditman

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:37 PM

I have been noticing this trend lately. Is it just my configuration or are any of you seeing it?

When I run
yaourt -Syu
command to update my system. I consistently see the Net Upgrade size as a negative number.
The code is shrinking.

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Total Download Size: 82.63 MiB   
Total Installed Size:   268.76 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:    -0.71 MiB

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

That is the the difference between the new and the old package's installed size (new installed size vs old installed size).
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:49 PM

I don't see any Arch updates at all these days. Ahhhhhhhh... it's kinda' nice. ;)

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:00 AM

View Postsecuritybreach, on 18 March 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

That is the the difference between the new and the old package's installed size (new installed size vs old installed size).
Yes, I just think it's interesting that they tend to be shrinking the last few weeks.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:36 PM

Hehe, I just saw this and thought of this thread:

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Total Download Size: 137.86 MiB
Total Installed Size:   758.41 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:    -72.18 MiB

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:11 PM

View Postsecuritybreach, on 26 March 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

Hehe, I just saw this and thought of this thread:
Did you just do the MySQL > MariaDB upgrade?

If so, how did it go? Anything break?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:34 PM

Wow, here's a big one!

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (19): boost-libs-1.52.0-3  calibre-0.9.25-1  chromium-26.0.1410.43-2
			  dotconf-1.3-3  ffmpeg-1:1.2-1  libdrm-2.4.43-1  libffi-3.0.13-1
			  libwebp-0.2.1-1  procps-ng-3.3.7-1  python-xdg-0.25-1  python2-sip-4.14.5-1
			  simutrans-112.2-1  simutrans-pak128-2.3.0-1  simutrans-pak64-112.2-1
			  sip-4.14.5-1  speech-dispatcher-0.8-1  sqlite-3.7.16.1-1  vlc-2.0.5-5
			  xproto-7.0.24-1

Total Download Size:	105.19 MiB
Total Installed Size:   358.72 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:	   -317.25 MiB

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:24 PM

May be your simutrans has the Beeching bug is is the 50th anniversary of his cuts. :tease:
Install ARCH
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 06:09 AM

Another reduction today

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Packages (18): cups-filters-1.0.33-1  enlightenment-1.0.12-1
   imagemagick-6.8.4.6-1  lib32-nvidia-libgl-313.30-1
   lib32-nvidia-utils-313.30-1
   lib32-nvidia-utils-313.26-1 [removal]  lib32-sqlite-3.7.16.1-1
   libxi-1.7.1-1  linux-3.8.5-1  lirc-utils-1:0.9.0-40
   lm_sensors-3.3.3-2  lua-5.2.2-1  mpg123-1.15.3-1
   nvidia-313.30-2  nvidia-libgl-313.30-2  nvidia-utils-313.30-2
   opencl-nvidia-313.30-2  yaourt-1.3-1

Total Download Size:    98.91 MiB
Total Installed Size:   281.55 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:    -71.53 MiB

At this rate you'll be able to run Arch of a floppy and still have space.  :teehee:
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:28 AM

View Postabarbarian, on 06 April 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

At this rate you'll be able to run Arch of a floppy and still have space.  :teehee:
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:27 AM

And again, it shrinks! I am really loving this.
Keep up the good work KDE, Libre Office, and others.

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Packages (67): calibre-0.9.26-1  cups-filters-1.0.33-1  imagemagick-6.8.4.6-1  kactivities-4.10.2-1
   kde-base-artwork-4.10.2-1  kdebase-dolphin-4.10.2-1  kdebase-katepart-4.10.2-1
   kdebase-kdepasswd-4.10.2-1  kdebase-kdialog-4.10.2-1  kdebase-keditbookmarks-4.10.2-1
   kdebase-kfind-4.10.2-1  kdebase-konq-plugins-4.10.2-1  kdebase-konqueror-4.10.2-1
   kdebase-konsole-4.10.2-1  kdebase-kwrite-4.10.2-1  kdebase-lib-4.10.2-1  kdebase-plasma-4.10.2-1
   kdebase-runtime-4.10.2-2  kdebase-workspace-4.10.2-1  kdegames-kmahjongg-4.10.2-1
   kdegames-kpatience-4.10.2-1  kdegraphics-gwenview-4.10.2-1  kdegraphics-ksnapshot-4.10.2-1
   kdegraphics-okular-4.10.2-1  kdelibs-4.10.2-1  kdemultimedia-kmix-4.10.2-1
   kdenetwork-kget-4.10.2-1  kdenetwork-kopete-4.10.2-1  kdepim-akregator-4.10.2-1
   kdepim-libkdepim-4.10.2-1  kdepim-runtime-4.10.2-1  kdepimlibs-4.10.2-1  kdesdk-kate-4.10.2-1
   kdeutils-ark-4.10.2-1  kdeutils-kcalc-4.10.2-1  libkcddb-4.10.2-1  libkcompactdisc-4.10.2-1
   libkdcraw-4.10.2-1  libkdegames-4.10.2-1  libkexiv2-4.10.2-1  libkipi-4.10.2-1
   libkmahjongg-4.10.2-1  libksane-4.10.2-1  liblastfm-1.0.7-1  libreoffice-base-4.0.2-1
   libreoffice-calc-4.0.2-1  libreoffice-common-4.0.2-1  libreoffice-draw-4.0.2-1
   libreoffice-en-US-4.0.2-1  libreoffice-extension-wiki-publisher-4.0.2-1
   libreoffice-impress-4.0.2-1  libreoffice-kde4-4.0.2-1  libreoffice-math-4.0.2-1
   libreoffice-postgresql-connector-4.0.2-1  libreoffice-writer-4.0.2-1  libxi-1.7.1-1  libzip-0.11-1
   linux-3.8.5-1  lm_sensors-3.3.3-2  lua-5.2.2-1  nepomuk-core-4.10.2-1  nepomuk-widgets-4.10.2-1
   nvidia-313.30-2  nvidia-libgl-313.30-2  nvidia-utils-313.30-2  oxygen-icons-4.10.2-1
   postgresql-libs-9.2.4-1

Total Download Size: 273.54 MiB
Total Installed Size:   871.87 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:    -43.02 MiB

Edited by amenditman, 06 April 2013 - 11:27 AM.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

And again today,

"The Amazing,Shrinking Arch Linux"!!!

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Packages (17): archlinux-keyring-20130406-1 harfbuzz-0.9.15-1 libreoffice-base-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-calc-4.0.2-2
			 libreoffice-common-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-draw-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-en-US-4.0.2-2
			 libreoffice-extension-wiki-publisher-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-impress-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-kde4-4.0.2-2
			 libreoffice-math-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-postgresql-connector-4.0.2-2 libreoffice-writer-4.0.2-2
			 psmisc-22.20-1 subversion-1.7.9-1 systemd-200-1 systemd-sysvcompat-200-1
Total Download Size: 81.32 MiB
Total Installed Size: 348.27 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:	 -5.94 MiB
Way to go Libre Office, systemd, and a few other little misc.

In the world of Operating systems this is truly great, amazing.....
You can't even run Windows 7 without 4 GB ram and at least 40 GB hard disk space, and Arch Linux, vanilla linux, is shrinking lots of packages almost everyday.

I love Linux! :wub:

Edited by amenditman, 07 April 2013 - 08:41 PM.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:31 AM

Yup even the small programs are still spring cleaning.

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Packages (3): archlinux-keyring-20130406-1  harfbuzz-0.9.15-1  isl-0.11.1-2

Total Download Size:    1.24 MiB
Total Installed Size:   4.63 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:    -0.17 MiB

amenditman your community loves you too :hug:
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:25 PM

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Packages (24): flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1  git-1.8.2.1-1  glibc-2.17-5
   lib32-glibc-2.17-5  lib32-harfbuzz-0.9.15-1
   lib32-libpng-1.5.15-1  lib32-libxi-1.7.1-1  lib32-systemd-200-1
   libldap-2.4.35-1  libpng-1.5.15-1  libva-1.1.1-1  linux-3.8.6-1
   lirc-utils-1:0.9.0-41  mercurial-2.5.4-1  nspr-4.9.6-1
   nvidia-313.30-3  orc-0.4.17-1  python-3.3.1-1  python2-2.7.4-1
   python2-distribute-0.6.36-1  python2-lxml-3.1.1-1  sane-1.0.23-4
   vlc-2.0.6-1  xulrunner-20.0-1

Total Download Size:    137.03 MiB
Total Installed Size:   497.91 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:    -26.12 MiB

Phew another 26 MB gone. :fish:
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:44 PM

Me too.

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
Packages (21): chromium-26.0.1410.63-1  flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1  git-1.8.2.1-1  glibc-2.17-5  isl-0.11.1-2
			   kdepim-akregator-4.10.2-2  kdepim-libkdepim-4.10.2-2  lib32-glibc-2.17-5  libldap-2.4.35-1
			   libpng-1.5.15-1  libva-1.1.1-1  linux-3.8.6-1  mercurial-2.5.4-1  nspr-4.9.6-1  nvidia-313.30-3
			   orc-0.4.17-1  python-3.3.1-1  python2-2.7.4-1  python2-lxml-3.1.1-1  sane-1.0.23-4  vlc-2.0.6-1
Total Download Size:	143.84 MiB
Total Installed Size:   524.48 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:	   -22.48 MiB
Between this and clearing the cached packages no longer installed or needed I need a smaller HDD. It's lonely and echoey in there!

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:10 PM

And again today.
Even with all the extra junk I have installed I could run this setup from an 8 GB flash stick (not counting my massive file storage partition).

:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Packages (19): binutils-2.23.2-2  calibre-0.9.27-1  cifs-utils-6.0-1  cups-filters-1.0.34-1  firefox-20.0.1-2
			   ldb-1.1.15-1  libbsd-0.4.2-1  libcap-2.22-4  libdiscid-0.5.0-1  libkolab-0.4.2-1
			   libkolabxml-0.8.4-1  libwbclient-4.0.5-1  opencv-2.4.5-1  python2-psutil-0.7.0-1  smbclient-4.0.5-1
			   sqlite-3.7.16.2-1  systemd-201-1  systemd-sysvcompat-201-1  tevent-0.9.18-1

Total Download Size:	58.34 MiB
Total Installed Size:   221.82 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:	   -41.66 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

What does df -h / show?
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:45 PM

Filesystem								 Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvroot 15G 5.4G 8.6G 39% /
dev										 3.9G	 0 3.9G 0% /dev
run										 4.0G 596K 4.0G 1% /run
tmpfs					 4.0G	 0 4.0G 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs					 4.0G	 0 4.0G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs									 4.0G 128K 4.0G 1% /tmp
/dev/sdb4				 	 457G 208G 226G 48% /DATA
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvvar 15G 1.7G 13G 12% /var
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvlog 4.8G 291M 4.3G 7% /var/log
/dev/mapper/ArchLinux-lvhome 20G 5.2G 14G 28% /home

Ok, so I still need the 16 GB stick, but it's down to just over 12 GB (/, /var, /var/log, /home).
And that is with a pretty full KDE install with a bunch of extras.

Edited by amenditman, 13 April 2013 - 04:46 PM.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:01 PM

I got an email notification that securitybreach responded to this thread, but it is not showing up even after 2 hours.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:35 PM

View Postamenditman, on 13 April 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

I got an email notification that securitybreach responded to this thread, but it is not showing up even after 2 hours.

Eh, do not worry about it was nothing. B)
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:36 AM

 df -h /
Filesystem	  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sde5		15G  4.7G  9.0G  35% /

An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman :harhar:
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 09:02 PM

View Postabarbarian, on 16 April 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

 df -h /
Filesystem	 Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sde5	 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% /

An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman :harhar:
That's because I have kdebase and a bunch of kde apps as well as a bunch of gnome stuff. That way I have the best of both worlds. Oh, and LXDE just for fun.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 10:54 PM

View Postabarbarian, on 16 April 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

 df -h /
Filesystem	 Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sde5	 15G 4.7G 9.0G 35% /

An that includes all the extra that has just appeared with E17 updates. That is some bloated system your running amenditman :harhar:

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Packages (39): alsa-lib-1.0.27-1  alsa-plugins-1.0.27-1  alsa-utils-1.0.27-4
   binutils-multilib-2.23.2-2  bison-2.7.1-1  cups-filters-1.0.34-1
   curl-7.30.0-1  enlightenment-1.0.13-1  expat-2.1.0-2
   firefox-20.0.1-2  fox-1.6.49-1  freeglut-2.8.1-1
   gcc-libs-multilib-4.8.0-2  gcc-multilib-4.8.0-2  gpm-1.20.7-2
   isl-0.11.2-1  kmod-13-1  lib32-alsa-lib-1.0.27-1
   lib32-curl-7.30.0-1  lib32-flashplugin-11.2.202.280-1
   lib32-gcc-libs-4.8.0-2  lib32-libldap-2.4.35-1
   lib32-nspr-4.9.6-1  lib32-sqlite-3.7.16.2-1  lib32-systemd-201-1
   libcdio-paranoia-10.2+0.90+1-1  liblqr-0.4.2-1  linux-3.8.7-1
   m4-1.4.16-3  net-snmp-5.7.2-4  perl-5.16.3-2
   python2-numpy-1.7.1-1  python2-psutil-0.7.0-1  qpdf-4.1.0-1
   sqlite-3.7.16.2-1  systemd-201-2  systemd-sysvcompat-201-2
   tar-1.26-3  wayland-1.1.0-1

Total Download Size:    131.30 MiB
Total Installed Size:   374.69 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:    -26.58 MiB

Going down again :clap:

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:19 AM

View Postabarbarian, on 17 April 2013 - 06:50 AM, said:

Blimey Josh you must have every program ever invented installed.

Not really as I only have 9032 MB of applications:
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The application I used to generate the chart is called pacgraph and is available in the Community repo:

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Draws a graph of installed packages to PNG/SVG/GUI/console. Good for finding bloat.
http://kmkeen.com/pacgraph/
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