ibe98765 Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I've been wasting CD discs trying to make what Nero calls a "CD Extra" disc - a combination disc that contains both audio files and data (photos).I've read the cryptic help and built the compilation. The audio tracks and the photos are all there in the Nero window. But when I click the "WRITE" button in the CD Extra dialog, only the photos get written to CD. The audio tracks are nowhere to be found. To-date, Nero support has been useless. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make this process work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryder Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I've been wasting CD discs trying to make what Nero calls a "CD Extra" disc - a combination disc that contains both audio files and data (photos).I've read the cryptic help and built the compilation. The audio tracks and the photos are all there in the Nero window. But when I click the "WRITE" button in the CD Extra dialog, only the photos get written to CD. The audio tracks are nowhere to be found. To-date, Nero support has been useless. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make this process work?What are you wanting the CD disk to do when you are done? If this is just for archive/back ups or sharing just do a normal "add files and burn". Should come out just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThunderRiver Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 I hope you understand the definition of CD Extra.. first track is audio and the second is data file trackOf course, after you burn the CD, you shouldn't see music files laying around on the CD. Instead, if you just pop the CD into a CD player, it should start playing music. Older CD player only reads the first track of a CD, and computer can see the second track of CD. That's why CD Extra feature exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibe98765 Posted March 25, 2003 Author Share Posted March 25, 2003 I hope you understand the definition of CD Extra.. first track is audio and the second is data file trackOf course, after you burn the CD, you shouldn't see music files laying around on the CD. Instead, if you just pop the CD into a CD player, it should start playing music. Older CD player only reads the first track of a CD, and computer can see the second track of CD. That's why CD Extra feature exists.It is difficult to understand the Nero help! And a lot of their design choices don't always seem to make logical sense, sigh. So much for German logic...I previously had autoplay for audio files turned off. So when I inserted the disc I made into the CD player, nothing happened. So I then looked for the music files on the disc to manually play them but they didn't show up. I turned autoplay on and yes, the audio now plays. In fact, it seems that you can have more than one audio file (I have two). Now I see why Nero only provides space in the setup dialogs for one audio artist. Wonder why more than audio file works then? Why don't the music file show up on the CD? It's dumb not to list them. Is there some technical problem? Is this a Nero choice? If you don't physically write on the disc that there are music files on it, no one would know. Better than encryption, heh, heh...Lastly, what are these files on the disc for under the Pictures folder:Name........................................SizeQ:\PICTURES\JACKET01.00A.....80012Q:\PICTURES\JACKET01.00J......18803Q:\PICTURES\JACKET01.00L......211724Q:\PICTURES\JACKET01.00P......30620Q:\PICTURES\JACKET02.00A......80012Q:\PICTURES\JACKET02.00J......18803Q:\PICTURES\JACKET02.00L......211724Q:\PICTURES\JACKET02.00P......30620 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arena2045 Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Just to recap what ThunderRiver said...Think of a CD Extra as a Music CD with computer files on it.The CD that you make (using CD Extra) is meant to be played in a player (car, stereo, boom box, etc) while the files can be accessed via the computer.If you want a CD where you can play MP3 files or some other form of Music by viewing the contents of the CD, don't burn it as a CD Extra, but just as a normal data CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibe98765 Posted March 26, 2003 Author Share Posted March 26, 2003 I'm still trying to learn the in's & out's of CD recording.What I want to do is make a CD that has both music files and photo's on it. From reading the Nero doc, it seemed like I had to use the CD EXTRA format to do this. But from your post, it sounds like I can just drag all the files I want together and burn a CD. Is this correct?Can I put MP3 files directly on a CD or do they have to be converted to CDA format? Will a device that says it plays MP3's on CD play raw MP3 files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryder Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 I'm still trying to learn the in's & out's of CD recording.What I want to do is make a CD that has both music files and photo's on it. From reading the Nero doc, it seemed like I had to use the CD EXTRA format to do this. But from your post, it sounds like I can just drag all the files I want together and burn a CD. Is this correct?Can I put MP3 files directly on a CD or do they have to be converted to CDA format? Will a device that says it plays MP3's on CD play raw MP3 files?Yes that is correct. You can mix and match any types of files and burn them to one disk. I do it all the time.As far as burning Mp3's, as long as the player is MP3 compatible, just drag the MP3's together and burn. It will play just fine. You only need to convert to CDA if the player is not capable of reading MP3 files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibe98765 Posted March 29, 2003 Author Share Posted March 29, 2003 I'm still trying to learn the in's & out's of CD recording.What I want to do is make a CD that has both music files and photo's on it. From reading the Nero doc, it seemed like I had to use the CD EXTRA format to do this. But from your post, it sounds like I can just drag all the files I want together and burn a CD. Is this correct?Can I put MP3 files directly on a CD or do they have to be converted to CDA format? Will a device that says it plays MP3's on CD play raw MP3 files?Yes that is correct. You can mix and match any types of files and burn them to one disk. I do it all the time.As far as burning Mp3's, as long as the player is MP3 compatible, just drag the MP3's together and burn. It will play just fine. You only need to convert to CDA if the player is not capable of reading MP3 files. I tried to create a compilation as a data CD. When I dragged a file from the audio disk to the compilation window, the only thing that got put on CD was a 44 byte entry of the track.I tried creating a compilation based on an audio CD. But when I tried to drag the photos to the disk, Nero told me thaqt the format (JPG) wasn't supported.So how do you do this mix & match with Nero? Nero doesn't seem to let you create a compilation that has mixtures of different types of files UNLESS you select either CD-EXTRA or MIXED MODE. And if you select either of these modes, then you don't see the audio files on the disk. Furthermore, there is only space for one artist name and title in EITHER of these modes.Is Nero just a useless utility? Is the problem the German translation into English? Is Roxio or something else better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThunderRiver Posted March 30, 2003 Share Posted March 30, 2003 I don't know how much I can explain to you.First of all, Nero is not useless, and in my personal opinion, it is the best CD burning utility around in the market, you won't find anything better than it. Easy CD Creator 6 is not where to beat it except eyecandy looking.Now, it is a standard that you don't get to have both audio and data on the same track. You either choose Mixed CD or CD Extra. I only recommend you CD Extra because most CD player can play back with it, and the mixed mode is there for no reasons, just an option.There is no way! No way! you can make both audio and file data show up at the same time unless you burn the CD using the original mp3, wma format and treat it just like any other file data. ThunderRiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibe98765 Posted March 30, 2003 Author Share Posted March 30, 2003 If Nero is the best CD buring software on the market, then IMO, we have a long way to go. It is overly complicated and convoluted. The attempt to translate the German base to English in the help arease leaves something to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus K Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 If Nero is the best CD buring software on the market, then IMO, we have a long way to go. It is overly complicated and convoluted.There are many tutorials/faqs to be found that explain the various relationships of audio/data/CDA/MP3/ripping/encoding etc. Some backround reading and preparation would help make using the program a bit easier. Although Nero's help files/terms/interface can be a bit confusing, their purpose is not to educate on all the points of disc formats. I like Nero and all that can be done with it, and find it to be less trouble, and more compatible with various computer set-ups than Roxio's product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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