BillD Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I am in the process of setting up PCLos 2007 on an HP Compaq nx6325 and I discovered that it would not shut down. In verbose mode, it says it is halting, and then it just sits there and I have to hold down the power key to shut it off. It will restart OK, but it will not shutdown properly. Thought maybe there was something odd about my initial installation, so I reinstalled, and sure enough, the same things still happens . . . Guess that is not the end of the world, but I wonder why it will not shut down?Thanks,Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Hi BillSame advise here as in the other thread have a look in the line that boots your PCLos ( press the spacebar at the bootscreen and you will see at the bottom the line that passes arguments to the kernel at boot. Have a look if there is something like "apci=ht" ( or something else with "=ht" ) . . remove that part and boot and see if that helps. Only now I am pretty sure the "=ht" argument at boot needs to be deleted and that should solve the shutdown problem.Once you know the correct arguments at boot we can make them permanent in Grub Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross549 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 The shutdown isue is another ACPI related problem. getting the right boot option should solve the issue.I have the same thin......... wait, I think I've said this before. :DMy laptop does not power off automatically either.Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) have a look in the line that boots your PCLos ( press the spacebar at the bootscreen and you will see at the bottom the line that passes arguments to the kernel at boot. Have a look if there is something like "apci=ht" ( or something else with "=ht" ) . . remove that part and boot and see if that helps.Well, I have it set up for Lilo rather than Grub. Should I reload and try Grub? Or can we access this boot up listing some other way? Pressing the spacebar does nothing for me in Lilo; it just goes ahead and boots with the GUI and if I boot with the "Linux-nonfb" option, it goes so fast I cannot see what is in there.And Adam, how/where do you set the "APCI arguments" . . . ?Thank you,Bill Edited June 8, 2007 by BillD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Hi BillLilo is no problem at all, we can work with that too ( I just thought because Grub is the default that you used Grub )Anyway . . please show # cat /etc/lilo.conf Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) $ cat /etc/lilo.conf# File generated by DrakX/drakboot# WARNING: do not forget to run lilo after modifying this filedefault="linux"boot=/dev/sdamap=/boot/mapinstall=menukeytable=/boot/us.kltmenu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bwcompactpromptnowarntimeout=100message=/boot/messageimage=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux" root=/dev/sda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=" acpi=on resume=/dev/sda7 splash=silent" vga=788image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux-nonfb" root=/dev/sda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=" acpi=on resume=/dev/sda7"image=/boot/vmlinuz label="failsafe" root=/dev/sda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=" failsafe acpi=on resume=/dev/sda7"other=/dev/sda1 label="windows" table=/dev/sdaother=/dev/sda2 label="windows1" table=/dev/sda Incidentally, if I set it to reboot rather than shut down, it ends with a statement to the effect that "file proc are being unmounted" whereas if I just shut down, it says "halted" and is indeed!Thanks,Bill Edited June 8, 2007 by BillD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Okay Bill, this is the relevant part: image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux" root=/dev/sda6 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=" acpi=on resume=/dev/sda7 splash=silent" vga=788 See the append line ?? There is where we will try to juggle a bit with extra code.First try this one: append=" acpi=on noapic resume=/dev/sda7 splash=silent" after the edit in just that one line please save the file and give the command: # /sbin/lilo next reboot and see if after that reboot at shutdown you get better results.We might have to do a few different changes before we will get the best result . . . so please be patient and order some pizza and soda ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Am I supposed to delete the original append line? I assume so from your statement.Thanks,Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 No no . . just add the noapic to the existing one ;) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) Bruno, it did not seem to make any difference. Did you mean to say noapic? Or noapci? And what are these?Bill Edited June 8, 2007 by BillD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Bruno, it did not seem to make any difference. Did you mean to say noapic? Or noapci? And what are these? Yep I meant to say noapic indeed . . and these are powermanagement tools.Okay remove the noapic and replace it with nolapic . . . and reboot again and try the shutdown againB) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) Yep I meant to say noapic indeed . . and these are powermanagement tools.Well, I asked because apci is listed in synaptic and apic is not and I see where apci is listed in synaptic as being power management stuff . . .BillEdit: Alas, noapci did not work . . . will continue.Thanks Edited June 8, 2007 by BillD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Yep but most of these codes are kernel parameters you pass to the kernel at boot . . . we do have a few more we want to try before seeing any result :Dnoapic ( we tried this one )nolapicapic=onnoapmand skip the acpi=on that is in there now or replacing the acpi=on with acpi=htB) Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Well, Bruno, I have tried all of them above and they all end up saying "Halted" with a flashing curser and I can only turn the computer off by holding down the power button for several seconds; very uncool!Thanks,Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Bill, have a look in the BIOS... I just delivered a PC to a client, which was one out of two I got from a local school. Powerful Pentium 4 2,4GHz with 1 gig RAM. Asus main board. In the BIOS of this main board are options to select either APIC/PIC/APCI and to turn that on or off.Maybe it's in the BIOS of your laptop too, who knows. A look in there never hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) Unfortunately, no; there are no options for setting power in this laptop BIOS.Just wondered something; I was using verbose mode to power down each time I changed something yesterday so that I could see what it said. And later, I was in the nonfb part of the boot. Now since the nonfb did not have the append in it, did that screw up my experiments?That is, should I be making the changes in the nonfb part of the boot menu since that is where I was looking toward the end?Thanks,Bill Edited June 9, 2007 by BillD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Just wondered something; I was using verbose mode to power down each time I changed something yesterday so that I could see what it said. And later, I was in the nonfb part of the boot. Now since the nonfb did not have the append in it, did that screw up my experiments?That is, should I be making the changes in the nonfb part of the boot menu since that is where I was looking toward the end?Well the idea was that we experimented with the default boot-option ( and in case we messed up we could still use the nonfb to boot and repair/fix things )Anyway another thing I want you to try is: go in the PCC --> system --> "enable or disable system services" and see if the box at apmd is ticked to start at boot . . . if so uncheck it so it does NOT start at boot. Next restore the default appendline in lilo.conf and write the new lilo to the MBR . . . next reboot and after the reboot shut down.If you want to see messages change ONE thing in the appendline: make "splash=silent" read "splash=verbose" . . . . after that you will have messages at boot and shutdown. Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) Well, I had already gone thru everything in the non verbose mode after posting the question because I was wondering. Unfortunately, un-checking apmd did not do it either . . . Any other ideas?Thanks,BillEdit: I just don't understand why it will restart OK, but not do a straight shut down. Edited June 9, 2007 by BillD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Any other ideas? Not really much we can do after this. 1). I am getting the impression that apmd is bugged ( that is why I turned it off, and somehow there is no manual way to turn it on with "# service apmd restart" nor the "# service apmd status" gives any joy )2). Can you show the result of # service acpi status Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 Well, this is odd. In my desktop I get: service acpi statusModules Loaded: ac battery button container fan i2c_ec processor sbs thermal video But when I do it for the laptop, I get nothing; it just returns to the root@localhost bill]# What is going on here?I installed the thing twice before I started personalizing it because it did the same faulty shut down after the first installation.Since this is the same disk I used when installing on both desktops, and was verified with md5 after downloading and also after burn at slow speed, it seems unlikely it has anything to do with the installation process . . .Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 See this is kind what I was afraid of . . . there is a bug in acpi and/or apm . . :(What happens if you do # service acpi restart on the laptop . . do you get any output ? Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 What happens if you do# service acpi restart on the laptop . . do you get any output ? No, nothing. Where is the bug . . . I assume it is in PCLos2007? I am using the rather simple minded workaround of using the nonfb boot mode as default and when it says "halted", I then just hold down the power button until it shuts off . . . Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Bruno, Bill : does the below set you in the right direction ?http://www.wolframschenck.de/nx6325.htmWhat the most interesting is, is the piece starting at 'ACPI problems and solution' . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillD Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 Well, now I find out! What a mess Fortunately, the fan seems to run OK on this thing, but it has a Sempron CPU in it with 512 MB memory, so I doubt that their BIOS revision is applicable. Flashing BIOS leaves me cold if I can avoid it, anyway. Since the fan is running when it gets hot, I guess I should leave well enough alone!Thanks for this informative link - revolting news that it is!Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Ahaaa . . it is not the acpi that is buggy . . . it is the laptop . . . . Thanks Striker ! Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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