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#1 OFFLINE   abarbarian

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:30 PM

I'm posting this from my new Arch 64 install with Slim login and E17 desktop and Namoraka browser  :happyroll: Ain't I a clever chappy  :harhar:  It only took me two full days and nights  :hysterical: ;) :hysterical: :hysterical:Would have been quicker but half the symbols have worn of me keyboard and I found it impossible to type with the mouse  :bangin:

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:32 PM

Only two days and nights? You're not done...you've got to break a few things first before you can say you're done. ;)Way to go!
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:34 PM

GreatI look forward to sharing your adventures

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:35 PM

I already fixed the GRUB menu showing the wrong hdd  :hysterical:
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:39 PM

Awesome Abarbarian!!!! :thumbup:So how do you like E17? I have not used it in over a year. I wonder if they have good multi-monitor support in Enlightenment?
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:58 PM

E17 will be ok when I figure out and choose some new themes. Oh and I need to figure out how to make everything bigger as the dock and icons look so small on me 24" Dell   :hysterical:
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 02:00 PM

Yeah I am trying to figure out how to set it up as well.For more themes, you can install the e17-themes package from AUR http://aur.archlinux...hp?K=e17-themes
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 02:12 PM

View Postabarbarian, on Jan 16 2011, 01:58 PM, said:

E17 will be ok when I figure out and choose some new themes.
I know what ya mean.  I enjoy using E17 (using it here in PCLOS) a lot more once I played around with different themes and found some that work well for me.You folks here (and at a few other Linux forums) are starting to get me interested in Arch.

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 02:41 PM

View Postsecuritybreach, on Jan 16 2011, 03:00 PM, said:

Yeah I am trying to figure out how to set it up as well.For more themes, you can install the e17-themes package from AUR http://aur.archlinux...hp?K=e17-themes
Them last few PCLinuxOS magazines had really good E17 articles. Well worth a look. I'm too info flooded to look at the moment. Left click on desktop, Shelf settings, highlightshelf in new window, click settings and you can do allsorts to the shelf. :hysterical: Mine is now darkish blue and auto hidding and just the right size  ;) saturian : the time has arrived to try a real os  :hysterical:
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 02:44 PM

View Postabarbarian, on Jan 16 2011, 01:41 PM, said:

Them last few PCLinuxOS magazines had really good E17 articles. Well worth a look. I'm too info flooded to look at the moment. Left click on desktop, Shelf settings, highlightshelf in new window, click settings and you can do allsorts to the shelf. :hysterical: Mine is now darkish blue and auto hidding and just the right size  ;) saturian : the time has arrived to try a real os  :hysterical:
Sounds good, I will have a look at the articles after work later tonight.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 04:45 PM

View Postabarbarian, on Jan 16 2011, 02:41 PM, said:

saturian : the time has arrived to try a real os  :thumbsup:
That's what they all say!

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 05:44 PM

You may want to read Jeff Hoogland's latest blog about Enlightenment Modules.http://jeffhoogland....nt-modules.html

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 06:06 PM

View Postamenditman, on Jan 16 2011, 06:44 PM, said:

You may want to read Jeff Hoogland's latest blog about Enlightenment Modules.http://jeffhoogland....nt-modules.html
Read them a while ago and they helped me make me mind up about E17. :thumbsup:
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 07:11 PM

View PostSueD, on Jan 16 2011, 02:32 PM, said:

Only two days and nights? You're not done...you've got to break a few things first before you can say you're done. ;)Way to go!
Ok I'll fess up. I do have a little glitch to iron out.   :thumbsup: I can only log in to Slim as root. If I try to log in as ME I get " Failed to execute Log In command"   :w00t: Had a good look around but can not seem to see what the problem is. I checked and it looks like I have created a user ME as I have a ME folder.An ME has a password in /etc/shadow so it looks like ME is valid as a user.Any ideas folks.   :">

Edited by abarbarian, 16 January 2011 - 07:15 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:17 AM

Can you post your /etc/slim.conf ?Also, look here https://bbs.archlinu...ic.php?id=84313
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 07:35 AM

# Path, X server and arguments (if needed)# Note: -xauth $authfile is automatically appendeddefault_path        /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bindefault_xserver     /usr/bin/Xxserver_arguments   -nolisten tcp vt07# Commands for halt, login, etc.halt_cmd            /sbin/shutdown -h nowreboot_cmd          /sbin/shutdown -r nowconsole_cmd         /usr/bin/xterm -C -fg white -bg black +sb -T "Console login" $#suspend_cmd        /usr/sbin/suspend# Full path to the xauth binaryxauth_path         /usr/bin/xauth# Xauth file for serverauthfile           /var/run/slim.auth# Activate numlock when slim starts. Valid values: on|off# numlock             on# Hide the mouse cursor (note: does not work with some WMs).# Valid values: true|false# hidecursor          false# Path, X server and arguments (if needed)# Note: -xauth $authfile is automatically appendeddefault_path        /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bindefault_xserver     /usr/bin/Xxserver_arguments   -nolisten tcp vt07# Commands for halt, login, etc.halt_cmd            /sbin/shutdown -h nowreboot_cmd          /sbin/shutdown -r nowconsole_cmd         /usr/bin/xterm -C -fg white -bg black +sb -T "Console login" $#suspend_cmd        /usr/sbin/suspend# Full path to the xauth binaryxauth_path         /usr/bin/xauth# Xauth file for serverauthfile           /var/run/slim.auth# Activate numlock when slim starts. Valid values: on|off# numlock             on# Hide the mouse cursor (note: does not work with some WMs).# Valid values: true|false# hidecursor          false# This command is executed after a succesful login.# you can place the %session and %theme variables# to handle launching of specific commands in .xinitrc# depending of chosen session and slim theme## NOTE: if your system does not have bash you need# to adjust the command according to your preferred shell,# i.e. for freebsd use:# login_cmd           exec /bin/sh - ~/.xinitrc %sessionlogin_cmd           exec /bin/bash -login ~/.xinitrc %session# Commands executed when starting and exiting a session.# They can be used for registering a X11 session with# sessreg. You can use the %user variable## sessionstart_cmd      some command# sessionstop_cmd       some command# Start in daemon mode. Valid values: yes | no# Note that this can be overriden by the command line# options "-d" and "-nodaemon"# daemon        yes# Available sessions (first one is the default).# The current chosen session name is replaced in the login_cmd# above, so your login command can handle different sessions.# see the xinitrc.sample file shipped with slim sourcessessions          enlightenment,xfce4,icewm,wmaker,blackbox# Executed when pressing F11 (requires imagemagick)screenshot_cmd      import -window root /slim.png# welcome message. Available variables: %host, %domainwelcome_msg         Welcome to %host# Session message. Prepended to the session name when pressing F1# session_msg         Session:# shutdown / reboot messagesshutdown_msg       The system is halting...reboot_msg         The system is rebooting...# default user, leave blank or remove this line# for avoid pre-loading the username.#default_user        simone# Focus the password field on start when default_user is set# Set to "yes" to enable this feature#focus_password      no# Automatically login the default user (without entering# the password. Set to "yes" to enable this feature#auto_login          no# current theme, use comma separated list to specify a set to# randomly choose fromcurrent_theme       default# Lock filelockfile            /var/lock/slim.lock# Log filelogfile             /var/log/slim.logApologies fore the long copy but I did not know which bit you wanted to see. :thumbsup:

Edited by abarbarian, 17 January 2011 - 12:26 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:18 PM

Ok, looking over it now. Also, could you post your ~/.xinitrc file? Does the command startx start your environment? I am trying to see if it is a Slim configuration issue or a ~/.xinitrc issue.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:48 PM

View Postsecuritybreach, on Jan 17 2011, 02:18 PM, said:

Ok, looking over it now. Also, could you post your ~/.xinitrc file? Does the command startx start your environment? I am trying to see if it is a Slim configuration issue or a ~/.xinitrc issue.
My actual ~/.xinitrc,#!/bin/sh## ~/.xinitrc## Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)# exec gnome-session# exec startkde# exec startxfce4# ...or the Window Manager of your choiceexec enlightenment_startStarting E17If you use startx or a simple Display Manager like XDM or SLiM, add or uncomment the following command in xinitrc:exec enlightenment_startSingle environmentsTo configure SLiM to load a particular environment, edit your ~/.xinitrc to load your desktop environment:#!/bin/sh## ~/.xinitrc## Executed by startx (run your window manager from here)#exec [session-command]SLiM reads the local ~/.xinitrc configuration and then launches the desktop according to what is in that file. If you do not have a ~/.xinitrc file, you can use the skeleton file by:$ cp /etc/skel/.xinitrc ~Looks the same as the wiki examples so I'm a tad confused.I think I have followed the Arch wiki install to the letter. An I have only pacmaned Slim,FF,E17 + E17 extras, as far as I can remember. Any changes I made and tried I went back and undid before trying anything else. A bit long winded but at this stage it is helping me learn. Ta for taking the time to help. :yes:
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:51 PM

Give me a minute to look around.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:57 PM

OK, your ~/.xinitrc is fine. I just tried it via startx and E17 loads. So it has to do with your configuration file.  Off to research more.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:19 PM

Ok, last resort, can you post as root:
# cat /var/log/slim.log | tail
So we can see the error it is generating.Reading this post https://bbs.archlinu...c.php?id=108117
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:39 PM

You know, since Anarchy (the philosophy) expounds on the advantages of no ruling authority, it would be more accurate to state that Anarchy Self-Rules!HAHA! :yes: OK, I'm off to find a life now...

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:54 PM

View PostV.T. Eric Layton, on Jan 17 2011, 01:39 PM, said:

You know, since Anarchy (the philosophy) expounds on the advantages of no ruling authority, it would be more accurate to state that Anarchy Self-Rules!HAHA! ;) OK, I'm off to find a life now...
:yes: Right!!I have never used a login manager on Arch, so I am kind of "shooting in the dark", per say.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 03:36 PM

I know you followed the wiki to the "t" but they may have missed something as well. I have found numerous posts in the Arch forums and elsewhere but nothing really popped out to me while looking over your config and .xinitrc file.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:00 PM

View PostV.T. Eric Layton, on Jan 17 2011, 03:39 PM, said:

You know, since Anarchy (the philosophy) expounds on the advantages of no ruling authority, it would be more accurate to state that Anarchy Self-Rules!HAHA! :lol: OK, I'm off to find a life now...
You seem to be an expert on Anarchy  ;) Did you perhaps find that life here,http://www.anarchy-o...=1003,1005,1028 :yes:
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