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UKUU Gui Kernel Upgrad Util For Ubuntu and Mint Distros


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Solution for a non-existent problem from my perspective. In Debian you just need a kernel metapackage installed to have it update with your regular upgrades.

Still, if it works for *buntus, go for it.

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Solution for a non-existent problem from my perspective. In Debian you just need a kernel metapackage installed to have it update with your regular upgrades.

Still, if it works for *buntus, go for it.

The thing I like about it is the fact that it shows both older and never kernels and you can backup a kernel befor installing a new or different one. If something goes wrong or you don't like the kernel that you chose, then you can revert or else choose a different one. Since Debian does not recognize some of my hardware with their kernel it would be nice to have a util to install one that would work. Ukuu works great with mint and Ubuntu and most other distro's based on Ubuntu. Works for me.
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In my view there's more to the hardware compatibility (mostly video) than simply the kernel. There are new versions of X.Org (or maybe even Wayland), new drivers, a new 3D graphics stack - lots of upgrades to consider.

I just let the distro packager look after that in a new release or rolling upgrade.

The current Debian - Jessie - has some issues with AMD GCN cards but the next release - Stretch - will have that fixed.

A further example:

Linux Mint 18.1 has a relatively trailing edge 4.4 kernel but the video with my AMD R7 360 card is good.

Last fall Manjaro had a more up to date 4.6 kernel but my video didn't work at all because the distro packagers put in the amdgpu driver rather than the radeon one and amdgpu just didn't work with early GCN cards.

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In my view there's more to the hardware compatibility (mostly video) than simply the kernel. There are new versions of X.Org (or maybe even Wayland), new drivers, a new 3D graphics stack - lots of upgrades to consider.

I just let the distro packager look after that in a new release or rolling upgrade.

The current Debian - Jessie - has some issues with AMD GCN cards but the next release - Stretch - will have that fixed.

A further example:

Linux Mint 18.1 has a relatively trailing edge 4.4 kernel but the video with my AMD R7 360 card is good.

Last fall Manjaro had a more up to date 4.6 kernel but my video didn't work at all because the distro packagers put in the amdgpu driver rather than the radeon one and amdgpu just didn't work with early GCN cards.

I'm not so sure about that. I have downloaded Stretch and still had the same video problems, had to do a non-free graphic install to get it to work right.

Mel

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Well yes I usually use the netinstall CD image which has the non-free firmware included to make installation easier. I would also make sure my sources.list contains contrib and non-free repos. That's part of using Debian on the desktop as far as I know.

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

There is no live version of Stretch that I can find right now to check if it works OK with my AMD video. I installed it using netinstall in VirtualBox and it works just fine - of course it doesn't use the AMD video for that.

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Well yes I usually use the netinstall CD image which has the non-free firmware included to make installation easier. I would also make sure my sources.list contains contrib and non-free repos. That's part of using Debian on the desktop as far as I know.

https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

https://cdimage.debi...uding-firmware/

There is no live version of Stretch that I can find right now to check if it works OK with my AMD video. I installed it using netinstall in VirtualBox and it works just fine - of course it doesn't use the AMD video for that.

Yep often times a distro will work in Virtual Box, but not on a hard drive install. The only real way to check out a distro is to install it on a hard drive or a ssd disk which is what I do using all primary partitions 25 gb for root 1024 gb for swap and 25 gb for home I don't have the 16 partition limitation using GPT partitioning. as far as using the net install I have not tried that lately that might be a good idea. I have a fast Cable connection 30 Mbs. I have not mastered install the firmware when you have distorted and unreadable graphics. I know it can be done from the command line, but don't know how. Pretty hard to do with out graphics. Maybe text install ??

Mel

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Well usually you can get a command line with Alt-Control-F1. If you can login as root:

 

# nano /etc/apt/sources.list

Make sure you have contrib and non-free added as sources for your regular packages and updates. If not add them and save the file.

Then

# apt update

# apt install firmware-linux-nonfree

 

Sometimes you can start up your distro using the Vesa or Failsafe option and that will give you limited graphics. Then you can use Synaptic to change your repositiories, reload and install the non-free firmware package.

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Well usually you can get a command line with Alt-Control-F1. If you can login as root:

 

# nano /etc/apt/sources.list

Make sure you have contrib and non-free added as sources for your regular packages and updates. If not add them and save the file.

Then

# apt update

# apt install firmware-linux-nonfree

 

Sometimes you can start up your distro using the Vesa or Failsafe option and that will give you limited graphics. Then you can use Synaptic to change your repositiories, reload and install the non-free firmware package.

Thank You Raymac, Roger showed me this a couple of years ago with siduction. I had forgotten. Thanks again

Mel

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And in the spirit of nothing ever stays the same, Debian have split the AMD firmware out to a separate package called firmware-amd-graphics. Not for Jessie default, but in jessie-backports, stretch, and sid. I think the same firmware is still in the firmware-linux-nonfree package for now so you can install either.

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