securitybreach Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 A man has been left hospitalized and his family left distraught in the aftermath of a grueling install of the Gentoo Linux operating system. The 32 year old man was admitted on Thursday and is currently in a stable but serious condition, after he reportedly lost the will to live. Sources say that the man, a local of Sydney, started installing Gentoo late on Monday evening on his main computer and that it was “his first serious attempt” at installing the operating system, which is known to be very “hands on” and time consuming. The victim’s younger brother, Matt, 24, had been paying some close attention to his brother’s activity and says the outcome isn’t too surprising. “He was installing it for days and all he had near the end was a basic Xfce desktop and an XTerm program,” he said. “It was really depressing, I think. Plus during the install, (he was) obsessively watching all those lines of code constantly streaming down the screen (during the compiling process), and having no computer to really use, he could only browse Facebook and stuff like that on his phone. I think it just all became too much.” Local authorities have issued a warning that this can happen more often than you might think. “Unfortunately, we’ve seen something similar before,” said Senior Constable John Brady. “Only two months ago we were called into the home of an individual who was in distress after executing the ‘emerge -uDU –with-bdeps=y @world’ command on their Gentoo system. We would urge all users of such systems to go easy on the bigger, more complicated or bloated software, even if you have a fast system. We are very, very concerned someone might actually die one day.” Meanwhile, several online petitions have been started calling for greater awareness for victims of hardcore Linux admin related injury, both physical and mental. At press time, Linux From Scratch couldn’t be contacted for comment, despite the project also being increasingly linked with strings of user suicides and suspected stress-related violent rampages. https://www.sudosati...gentoo-install/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Well I am still here and I spent the afternoon installing Arch on my Toshiba netbook. All the futzing around in VirtualBox gave me the courage to try it for real. Only a couple of glitches. At first I couldn't get lightdm to work because I spelled lightdm-gtk-greeter wrong in a conf file. Then I had a heck of a time getting Network Mangler to handle my wifi. After lots of research in the Arch Wiki I found out that I needed to install gnome-keyring to put in the password. All is well now and I am posting from my Arch install now. This netbook has only 2 GB of RAM but Arch can be light enough to work on it. It also has an SSD so it's not too bad in performance for basic stuff. I'm using Xfce. Edited May 6, 2017 by raymac46 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 Well I am still here and I spent the afternoon installing Arch on my Toshiba netbook. All the futzing around in VirtualBox gave me the courage to try it for real. Only a couple of glitches. At first I couldn't get lightdm to work because I spelled lightdm-gtk-greeter wrong in a conf file. Then I had a heck of a time getting Network Mangler to handle my wifi. After lots of research in the Arch Wiki I found out that I needed to install gnome-keyring to put in the password. All is well now and I am posting from my Arch install now. This netbook has only 2 GB of RAM but Arch can be light enough to work on it. It also has an SSD so it's not too bad in performance for basic stuff. I'm using Xfce. Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Arch is a ride on an electric scooter through the park compared to Gentoo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I'll take your word for it. I have no motivation to spend hours compiling a music player or email client. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 I'll take your word for it. I have no motivation to spend hours compiling a music player or email client. Yeah, me neither. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon James Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Me neither. The closest "urge" I've gotten can be scratched with Sabayon, or ChromeOS. (Ironically, ChromeOS is based on Gentoo: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/ChromeOS) I understand that compilation from source results in EVERYTHING being customized to your hardware, and theoretically results in the fastest possible system.....but assuming you are successful with relative few and minor issues, is the slightly incremental increase worth the monumentally excessive effort? That doesn't even SOUND like a fair trade to me! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlim Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) With so many choices in linux, I just want something that works! I am too old at this point in time to spend time tweaking. I want something usable. If what I try live doesn't work, the stick gets wiped and I look for something else. several online petitions have been started calling for greater awareness for victims of hardcore Linux admin related injury, both physical and mental. Edited May 6, 2017 by zlim 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Bruno used to try to get me to build a "Linux from Scratch" for a while there. He told me it would be a great learning experience. I believed him; just didn't have the motivation to actually do it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 It's a bit like swimming, this Linux thing. Maybe you dip your toe in the water at first. Maybe you wade in at the shallow end. You might eventually jump in at the deep end of the pool. But it doesn't mean you'll want to be a cliff diver. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 HA! That will become a classic raymac46 quote. You should use it in your sigline, I swear! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 last thing i can remember doing from scratch for linux was about 10 years ago, a multihomed setup for sendmail with all the security features. :'( did not work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrat Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Haha, funny site. I also like this article because it's true. KDE User in Awe as they Experience Stability for the First Time The latest Plasma 5 in siduction has been amazingly stable and functional since I installed it recently unlike versions from a year or so ago when I last used it and ended up defecting to MX-16 for a while. Then I had a heck of a time getting Network Mangler to handle my wifi. I always seem to have problems with Network Manager. I've taken to purging it and just making an /etc/network/interfaces file as part of post-install setup. Works every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
securitybreach Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 I always seem to have problems with Network Manager. I've taken to purging it and just making an /etc/network/interfaces file as part of post-install setup. Works every time. I prefer netctl nowadays. I automatically connect via a static IP on my desktop with a very simple custom network.service file: [unit] Description=Wired Static IP Connectivity Wants=network.target Before=network.target [service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/network ExecStart=/sbin/ip link set dev enp4s0 up ExecStart=/sbin/ip addr add 192.168.1.2/24 broadcast 192.168.1.255 dev enp4s0 ExecStart=/sbin/ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 ExecStop=/sbin/ip addr flush dev enp4s0 ExecStop=/sbin/ip link set dev enp3s0 down [install] WantedBy=multi-user.target And on my laptops, I simply run wifi-manu and save the profile afterwards: Easy, peasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I like Network Manager for wifi management on laptops. If it works, it's fine. I guess I'm used to it being mostly a Debian user. Edited May 9, 2017 by raymac46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon James Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I prefer WICD, but I'm sure it's just a GUI front-end for a CLI tool. I don't know what...but I'm sure of it. WICD has been supremely reliable for me, and visually intuitive for those I provide tech support to. Network Manager generates phone calls....WICD does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.T. Eric Layton Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I prefer WICD, also. However, had to stop using it when I signed up for a VPN. Surprisingly, WICD does NOT support OpenVPN; Network Manager does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymac46 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I've had trouble with WICD when using it with AntiX. But I've also had trouble with Network Manager so I suppose they are both equal in my view. I used to be good at configuring things manually and that never let me down. Network Manager has been OK for me since I stopped using a wifi range extender and just let the router do its thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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