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#1 OFFLINE   Temmu

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

greets from a ticked-off app store new user!

you go to the lying deceiving thieving apple app store and click on a couple of magazines listed as "free"

after they download, you attempt to open them. they say "purchase, $5.95"
what! the app store said "free!"

what a bunch of law breaking hoodlums.
and apple is in the dcma crap!  hypocrits!



what a way to ruin a first time user experience with an ipad. ><

no, i don't expect any replies.

ps
one of them was "linux format" magazine. open source hypocrits!
at least on most download sites it says "trialware" or "30 day trial" or some such warning.

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#2 OFFLINE   ross549

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Yes, the app is usually free.

What's cool about that is that if you have a print subscription, you can many times tie that in to the app and get both print and digital versions, at no extra cost.

You expected them to give away the content for free?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:58 PM

no. nothing is free.
you have heard my argument for years on how can free software survive, the authors have to eat.

what i sorta, kinda expect is when someone comes to me and says free, it's free.
but i know we live in a theiving, lying world.
just watch ads.

the magazines, or whatever, should say, sneak preview, trialware, limited content, or whatever....

but again, no, i don't expect anything for free.
i have unspent money in my itunes account, even as we speak.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:26 PM

nothing is really free in the world we live in.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:11 AM

View PostTemmu, on 31 January 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

the magazines, or whatever, should say, sneak preview, trialware, limited content, or whatever....

When newsstand and the digital magazines came out a year or so ago.... I don't remember hearing that the content would be free, and most of the announcements digital editions being launched noted that there would be a subscription.

In-app purchases are a nice system. You can download the app and look at it before dropping the full amount.

One app my wife bought was only used two or tree times and ended up costing us 10-15 (don't remember exactly how much), and there was no option to download a limited version of the app to try first.

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#6 OFFLINE   LilBambi

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

It is misleading. There should be another button added.

One for:

Free
Trial
Buy

Then they would stop the misleading crap from the newstand.

I just see if it's really free or if it's a trial free issue, or whatever. If it's misleading. I delete it. Plain and simple.
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#7 OFFLINE   ross549

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:49 PM

So how should magazine apps be deployed?

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:01 PM

simply stop saying "free app" , as the app is not worth anything at all without content from the app provider.
Instead , put up a free trial - it can be a just a few pages and last a year - that would then lead to the downloading of the app.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:36 PM

I am having a hard time with this. Many apps are free but offer a service that costs money. Netflix, for example. There are many others.

How is this misleading?

So if the app costs money for let's say Wired magazine, how do you purchase one issue? How do you get a yearly or multi-year subscription? How do you offer free digital editions with a paid print subscription?

A free app is the only way to do it.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

View Postross549, on 01 February 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

I am having a hard time with this. Many apps are free but offer a service that costs money. Netflix, for example. There are many others.

How is this misleading?
the app is useless as a stand alone application. Screen space is not free, especially on a phone.

View Postross549, on 01 February 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

So if the app costs money for let's say Wired magazine, how do you purchase one issue? How do you get a yearly or multi-year subscription?
see my post above, and/or provide a url and/or provide a barcode to scan.

View Postross549, on 01 February 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

How do you offer free digital editions with a paid print subscription?
send a link via email when confirming the subscription and/or see my post above, and/or provide a url and/or provide a barcode to scan.

View Postross549, on 01 February 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

A free app is the only way to do it.

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Just don't call it a free app, call it required software.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

View Postcrp, on 01 February 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

the app is useless as a stand alone application. Screen space is not free, especially on a phone.
Easy to delete....

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see my post above, and/or provide a url and/or provide a barcode to scan.

send a link via email when confirming the subscription and/or see my post above, and/or provide a url and/or provide a barcode to scan.

Apple forbids developers from this practice. Why? Because the developers were developing their apps for free, and then having them pay for the content outside Apple's ecosystem. They were doing this only to sneak their way around the 30% fee Apple charges. The App Store is not free to operate....

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Just don't call it a free app, call it required software.

Yes, the app is required to view the content. I don't see where this is a problem.

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#12 OFFLINE   LilBambi

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:34 PM

Everyone has their own opinion I guess...
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:11 AM

glad i could stir the pot.
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not really. but my observation stands.
(opinions are like poop chutes, everyone has one, & they all stink... lol :D )
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