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#26 OFFLINE   raymac46

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:04 PM

With regard to Cinnamon in rendering mode you may get that in Virtualbox anyway since it's a software 3D rendereing llvmpipe. Have a look at my Manjaro hardware report.

[ray@ray-pc ~]$ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: ray-pc Kernel: 4.9.22-1-MANJARO x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.3.1)
		 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.31) Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine: Device: oracle System: innotek product: VirtualBox v: 1.2
		 Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2
		 BIOS: innotek v: VirtualBox date: 12/01/2006
CPU:	 Dual core Intel Core i5-2320 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
		 flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3) bmips: 11977
		 clock speeds: max: 2993 MHz 1: 2993 MHz 2: 2993 MHz
Graphics: Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
		 bus-ID: 00:02.0
		 Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 driver: modesetting
		 Resolution: 1920x975@59.93hz
		 GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 256 bits)
		 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:	 Card Intel 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller
		 driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: d100 d200 bus-ID: 00:05.0
		 Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.22-1-MANJARO
Network: Card: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller
		 driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: d010 bus-ID: 00:03.0
		 IF: enp0s3 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 17.2GB (66.3% used)
		 ID-1: /dev/sda model: VBOX_HARDDISK size: 17.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 12G used: 6.6G (60%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
		 ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.63GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:	 Processes: 132 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 311.9/2004.9MB
		 Init: systemd Gcc sys: 6.3.1
		 Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121) inxi: 2.3.8
[ray@ray-pc ~]$

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:06 PM

View Postraymac46, on 22 April 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

pacman-mirrors -g works just fine in Manjaro.

That is only an alias for rankmirrors: https://wiki.manjaro...date_Mirrorlist

View Postraymac46, on 22 April 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

Have a look at my Manjaro hardware report.

Is that what they refer to it as or is that just your wording for the output of inxi on Manjaro?
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:14 PM

Here is that output on my main rig:

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:28 PM

Here is mine
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inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: m-pc Kernel: 4.9.13-1-MANJARO x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 6.3.1)
   Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.8 (Gtk 3.22.9) Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:   Device: oracle System: innotek product: VirtualBox v: 1.2
   Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2
   BIOS: innotek v: VirtualBox date: 12/01/2006
CPU:    Dual core AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G (-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
   flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3) bmips: 12377
   clock speeds: max: 3093 MHz 1: 3093 MHz 2: 3093 MHz
Graphics:  Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
   bus-ID: 00:02.0
   Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting
   Resolution: 1280x618@59.80hz
   GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.9, 128 bits)
   GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.1 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card Intel 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller
   driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: d100 d200 bus-ID: 00:05.0
   Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.13-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller
   driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: d010 bus-ID: 00:03.0
   IF: enp0s3 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 8.6GB (58.3% used)
   ID-1: /dev/sda model: VBOX_HARDDISK size: 8.6GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 7.9G used: 4.7G (64%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:   Processes: 126 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 781.8/2005.0MB
   Init: systemd Gcc sys: 6.3.1
   Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121) inxi: 2.3.8
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Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:57 PM

can't download the updates now because of the following error. there are 163 updates.
now I get a error.

could not satisfy dependencies Lib32- glu installing mhwd breaks lib32-libgl
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 06:38 AM

View Postsecuritybreach, on 22 April 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

View Postraymac46, on 22 April 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

pacman-mirrors -g works just fine in Manjaro.

That is only an alias for rankmirrors: https://wiki.manjaro...date_Mirrorlist

View Postraymac46, on 22 April 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

Have a look at my Manjaro hardware report.

Is that what they refer to it as or is that just your wording for the output of inxi on Manjaro?

1. It works whatever you want to call it.
2. Yes my term for it. Call it inxi if you want. Same difference as far as I am concerned.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 06:44 AM

View Postmhbell, on 22 April 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

can't download the updates now because of the following error. there are 163 updates.
now I get a error.

could not satisfy dependencies Lib32- glu installing mhwd breaks lib32-libgl

https://www.reddit.c...ncies_issue_on/

This has nothing to do with VBox and could be an issue on the rails as well. It's a Manjaro thing.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:08 AM

View Postraymac46, on 23 April 2017 - 06:38 AM, said:

View Postsecuritybreach, on 22 April 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

View Postraymac46, on 22 April 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

pacman-mirrors -g works just fine in Manjaro.

That is only an alias for rankmirrors: https://wiki.manjaro...date_Mirrorlist

View Postraymac46, on 22 April 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

Have a look at my Manjaro hardware report.

Is that what they refer to it as or is that just your wording for the output of inxi on Manjaro?
Call it inxi if you want. Same difference as far as I am concerned.

I only asked because inxi came out about 7 years before Manjaro. I brought that up is because Manjaro has been caught labeling something as their own and was called out for it in the past for it.
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:10 AM

View Postraymac46, on 23 April 2017 - 06:44 AM, said:

View Postmhbell, on 22 April 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

can't download the updates now because of the following error. there are 163 updates.
now I get a error.

could not satisfy dependencies Lib32- glu installing mhwd breaks lib32-libgl

https://www.reddit.c...ncies_issue_on/

This has nothing to do with VBox and could be an issue on the rails as well. It's a Manjaro thing.
Ray I want to thank you and the other members, for all your time and trouble. I am sorry, but Manjaro until it is more mature, will not be a distro for me. to many problems and there are other distros that work with very few problems. I did the fix as per reddit, but there were still other problems and dependencies needed. This is a Distro to much like Arch with all its problems. Linux distros should be fun and work pretty much right out of the box and not be a chore to get to work correctly. I guess I will just try to stick with Debian / Ubuntu type distros for now. Anyway thanks to all for your help.
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:12 AM

View Postmhbell, on 23 April 2017 - 08:10 AM, said:

View Postraymac46, on 23 April 2017 - 06:44 AM, said:

View Postmhbell, on 22 April 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

can't download the updates now because of the following error. there are 163 updates.
now I get a error.

could not satisfy dependencies Lib32- glu installing mhwd breaks lib32-libgl

https://www.reddit.c...ncies_issue_on/

This has nothing to do with VBox and could be an issue on the rails as well. It's a Manjaro thing.
Ray I want to thank you and the other members, for all your time and trouble. I am sorry, but Manjaro until it is more mature, will not be a distro for me. to many problems and there are other distros that work with very few problems. I did the fix as per reddit, but there were still other problems and dependencies needed. This is a Distro to much like Arch with all its problems. Linux distros should be fun and work pretty much right out of the box and not be a chore to get to work correctly. I guess I will just try to stick with Debian / Ubuntu type distros for now. Anyway thanks to all for your help.
Mel

Well honestly you will not see many of the issues with Manjaro on Archlinux. The reason for this is because Manjaro holds back packages and on a rolling distro, doing this can and will cause issues with versioning/compatibility with other packages. So do not get the wrong idea about archlinux based on a derivative with too many changes. That is like blaming Debian for Ubuntu's failures.
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:21 AM

For instance, the error you got only occured on Manjaro and not Archlinux.
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:36 AM

Josh is right. Arch can be set up as simply as you want or as complex as you want. Manjaro has a bunch of special tools that sometimes give problems - like mhwd. I haven't had any difficulties lately but I don't use it in any other way but as a Virtual Machine. I wouldn't put it on anything I wanted to use say on vacation.
A good candidate for VBox is MX-16 - nice desktop and Guest Additions work. Lubuntu is another. Linux Mint Xfce is another.
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:44 AM

View Postraymac46, on 23 April 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

Josh is right. Arch can be set up as simply as you want or as complex as you want. Manjaro has a bunch of special tools that sometimes give problems - like mhwd. I haven't had any difficulties lately but I don't use it in any other way but as a Virtual Machine. I wouldn't put it on anything I wanted to use say on vacation.
A good candidate for VBox is MX-16 - nice desktop and Guest Additions work. Lubuntu is another. Linux Mint Xfce is another.
OK I will agree, it is not Arch fault. I have Lubutu, and Fedora both running in a VM without problems. I also have a VM in windows 10 and some surprises which I will leave for another post.
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 10:08 AM

I like Siduction very much in VM but unfortunately their last release had a bug where they removed the Guest Additions if you installed it. It worked fine as a Live image.
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Posted 23 April 2017 - 10:32 AM

View Postsecuritybreach, on 23 April 2017 - 08:12 AM, said:

Well honestly you will not see many of the issues with Manjaro on Archlinux. The reason for this is because Manjaro holds back packages and on a rolling distro, doing this can and will cause issues with versioning/compatibility with other packages. So do not get the wrong idea about archlinux based on a derivative with too many changes. That is like blaming Debian for Ubuntu's failures.

Exactly. I've been running Antergos, which is a lot closer to Arch than Manjaro is, but still not quite the same thing as what I'm seeing in my Arch installation.

This is a great thread. Mostly, though, it's made me realize that I have no need to mess around with VMs at this time.

Also, no Windows here, which I'm happy about.

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Haven't lost my touch I guess. I did an Arch install in VBox on Linux Mint 18.1 This is what I have so far. Installed gdm so I have GNOME and also Xfce.
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I decided I'd rather have my Arch VM hosted on Windows 10 so I reinstalled it. I think I did a better job this time. I used LightDM as my display manager and have only installed Xfce. I have sound working and got the browsers, Abiword and Gnumeric and VLC installed.
If you're interested in fooling around with VMs it's really worth it to install Arch.
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Posted 12 May 2017 - 12:14 AM

At work I just built a new cluster consisting of 5 Dell R630 servers running VMware vSphere Hypervisor managed using vCenter Server. The cluster pool has a total of 160 vCPUs and 1.25TB of memory and I have 24TB of iSCSI storage available to it over a 10GB Ethernet fabric. I should be able to virtualize 1,000+ virtual machines! :devil: :devil: :devil:

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View PostPeachy, on 12 May 2017 - 12:14 AM, said:

At work I just built a new cluster consisting of 5 Dell R630 servers running VMware vSphere Hypervisor managed using vCenter Server. The cluster pool has a total of 160 vCPUs and 1.25TB of memory and I have 24TB of iSCSI storage available to it over a 10GB Ethernet fabric. I should be able to virtualize 1,000+ virtual machines! :devil: :devil: :devil:

Very nice!! I need something like that at home.... B)
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