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Apr 24 2003, 01:46 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
SEARCHING
Imagine you just downloaded or installed a program and you have no clue where is is gone. There are several ways to perform search. The most easy ones are: CODE $ whereis gkrellm or CODE $ locate gkrellm ( if gkrellm is the program you're after )Note: for locate to work you have to create a database for fast searching : CODE $ su < password > # updatedb Cron will keep your database up to date on a daily basis. Special characters: * \ [....] [!....] ? * = matches a random string of characters \ = the "escape sign", the character or space after this sign is ignored ? = matches 1 random character [a-d] = matches a, b, c, d [!a-d] = does not match a, b, c, d [a-dA-D] = matches a, b, c, d, A, B, C, D Now let's do some Magic: CODE $ ls /etc/*conf ( Will list all files in the /etc dir that end with conf including conf )CODE $ ls /etc/[!g-z]* ( Will list all files in /etc/ that do not start with the letters g to z )CODE $ locate *doc ( Will produce a long list of the files ending on doc on your computer )Because this list is very long, and we might want to keep it: CODE $ locate *doc >alldocs ( Will create a textfile called alldocs in your /home listing all the doc files crowding your computer. ( Notice the speed of you lovely Linux system ) )CODE $ ls /mnt/win_c/My\ Documents/*txt ( Will make a list of all your txt files it finds in your C:\windows\My Documents. )Note: Linux does not like spaces in names ! So in My\ Documents, the \ tells it to ignore the next character. An other way to do it is "My Documents". Another, but somewhat complicated command for searching is "find". See for instructions how to use it: The Find Command More Magic: The Tab key autocompletes: Try this, < cd /u > and press tab now add an "s" and press tab, give an "h" and press tab, now we have got < cd /usr/share/ > OK lets go on, type a "f" "o" "n" tab "t" tab "d" tab. < Enter > Now we are in /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives. < ls > will give you a list of all the fancy ttf fonts on your system. < cd .. > , < cd western > , < ls > gives you a list of all normal ttf fonts. So now you know where to install all those extra fonts you can find on the net. -------------------- |
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Apr 24 2003, 06:05 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
INSTALLING SOFTWARE
URPMI Software comes in many different kind of packages deb, rpm and tarball are the most popular, but there are a bunch of other ones too, just take the Firefox browser; just unpacking it and creating a shortcut from the firefox script to the desktop is all there is to it ! Tarballs can be a real problem because of lib dependencies ( The nightmare of every Linux starter ! ) Today we'll introduce you to urpmi, a kind of rpm with gold-plating, because all dependencies are taken care of automatically. You have to be on-line to download and install the packages though ! Urpmi does not only download the rpm you want but also all packages needed to make the install successful , easy as cake ! In Mandriva you can use the graphical software manager in the Mandriva Control Center, it uses urpmi by clicking on a few buttons. But there is a much faster way of installing software using urpmi on the commandline and you will be surprised how easy it actually is: An example, installing the gkrellm package ( system monitors ) would type the command: CODE # urpmi gkrellm . . . and if you want to install both the program with the plugins and the themes in one go you do CODE # urpmi gkrellm gkrellm-plugins gkrellm-themes Then, if you want to remove/uninstall gkrellm you do CODE # urpme gkrellm Well, that was easy enough wasn't it ? And like I said: urpmi resolves dependencies but does need an working net connection. To update the urpmi sources you do "urpmi.update -a" -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 09:47 AM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
INSTALLING SOFTWARE
Apt-get and YUM for RedHat and Fedora RedHat It looks like Red Hat is developping a new way to handle RPM's, a bit simular to urpmi. Here is a link to info about Apt-get for RedHat: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.ph...topic=3931&st=0 Fedora Here the thread about YUM: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.ph...indpost&p=48219 -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 09:48 AM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
YaST for SUSE
Suse uses it's own package management system. I call on Zox, Greengeek and ComputerBob to please write us a few lines about it. -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 11:08 AM
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![]() Australisches Googler Group: Forum Admins Posts: 11,047 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Virginia Member No.: 100 |
FYI:
Here are some articles on the RedHat site about apt-get and other auto-updaters in relation to RedHat: http://rpm.redhat.com/software/updaters/ -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 11:26 AM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
Thanks for your input LilBambi.
What distro are u using yourself ? Was it Mandrake or RedHat ? I'm a bit confused now, was sure it was Mandrake. . . ? -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 11:48 AM
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![]() Australisches Googler Group: Forum Admins Posts: 11,047 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Virginia Member No.: 100 |
QUOTE (Bruno @ Apr 25 2003, 11:26 AM) Thanks for your input LilBambi. What distro are u using yourself ? Was it Mandrake or RedHat ? I'm a bit confused now, was sure it was Mandrake. . . ? Sorry Bruno -- I should have been clear on that point ... Actually it is both ... Mandrake (since 7.0) and RedHat (since 6.0). I am currently using RedHat 7.2 on my alternate computer (through KVM switch) but we have 11 networked boxes here. Mainly with versions of Mandrake and RedHat on them. We also have one Win95 (dualboot) and one Win98se (solo box). In addition we have a couple freeBSD installations (standalone and dualboot). So the confusion was quite understandable -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 01:04 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
QUOTE (LilBambi @ Apr 25 2003, 05:48 PM) I am currently using RedHat 7.2 on my alternate computer (through KVM switch) but we have 11 networked boxes here. Mainly with versions of Mandrake and RedHat on them. We also have one Win95 (dualboot) and one Win98se (solo box). In addition we have a couple freeBSD installations (standalone and dualboot). Does that mean I can ask you to write a few lines about easy software install in RedHat ? Please ? And what about freeBSD ? You and ThunderRiver look like the only ones that could be able to shed some light on software install in freeBSD. Do they use RPM ? Tarballs ? See, we have lots of questions in this forum, are hungry for answers, and would appreciate your expertise. -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 01:50 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
INSTALLING SOFTWARE
RPM RPM stands for RedHat Package Management, but is pretty universal and used in modern Distro's. In many cases a simple click on the RPM icon will open a GUI for easy installation. Sometimes you can even do a test-install to see if all dependencies are correct. For the commandline we have: ( assuming we want to install samba-2.2.1a-4 ) CODE # rpm -ihv samba-2.2.1a-4.rpm ( Will install the package ) # rpm -Uhv samba-2.2.1a-4.rpm ( Will upgrade the package ) # rpm -e samba-2.2.1a-4.rpm ( Delete the package ) # rpm -l samba-2.2.1a-4.rpm ( Will list the files in the package ) # rpm -ql samba-2.2.1a-4.rpm ( Will list the files and state the installed version of the package ) Imagine the install returns that there are some libs missing, and you know for sure that they are there: In most cases you can force an install, or tell it to ignore dependencies. CODE # rpm -ihv samba-2.2.1a-4.rpm --force # rpm -ihv samba-2.2.1a-4.rpm --nodeps Upgrading: First have a look what's installed, CODE # rpm qa | grep samba this will return, samba-common-2.2.1a-4 samba-client-2.2.1a-4 samba-2.2.1a-4 uninstall. ( Leave the dependencies as they are ) CODE # rpm -e samba-common-2.2.1a-4 --nodeps # rpm -e samba-client-2.2.1a-4 --nodeps # rpm -e samba-2.2.1a-4 --nodeps install the upgrade, ( With or without --force or --nodeps ) CODE # rpm -ihv samba-2.2.7-3.7.2.rpm # rpm -ihv samba-client-2.2.7-3.7.2.rpm # rpm -ihv samba-common-2.2.7-3.7.2.rpm -------------------- |
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Apr 25 2003, 06:11 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
INSTALLING SOFTWARE
TGZ ( slack-packages ) Slackware and Slack-based distro's like VectorLinux use .tgz packages. Using the Midnight Commander, an ancient looking, but very effective tool, installing slack-packages are a breeze; su root, highlight the package, press F2 and choose install. The Midnight Commander ( mc ) is a very powerful program, allowing you to manage files, copy, editing, moving, searching, installing, zipping, unzip, converting from one zip format to another, send files to a remote host, undelete files ( ext2 only ), link, symlink, chown, chmod, all those actions can be done with this "Miracle Commander". MC is available for almost every Linux distro, also Mandrake and RedHat, see install CD's, install it on your computer and have a look, just type < mc > in a console for the program to start. ( Warning: it's an ugly ******* compared to modern GUI interfaces ! ) Also you could use the package manager: "pkginstall" like this: CODE # pkginstall name_of_package.tgz that will take care of the installation for you Using RPM's in Slackware means that you have to convert them to .tgz with a tool called rpm2tgz. VectorLinux is less picky it accepts RedHat's rpm's without complaining. Tar.gz ( tarballs ) can not be used in Slack or Slack-based distro's Don forget to check out SWARET if you use Slackware !! -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2003, 03:04 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
INSTALLING SOFTWARE
TARBALLS ( compiling from source ) Before we start: check if you got a "c" compiler, "gcc" installed on your computer. ( usually if you choose "development packages" during install gcc will be on your system.: CODE $ whereis gcc If no gcc is installed, now is the time to do so, the rpm's are on your CD ! IN A NUTSHELL, Here is what needs to be done to install a tarball package: Unpack gkrellm.tar.gz ( we take gkrellm as example ) CODE $ tar -xvzf gkrellm.tar.gz $ cd gkrellm $ ./configure $ make $ su < password > # make install IN DEPTH, Download the gkrellm-2.0.tar.gz package to your /home directory. Open a console CODE # tar -xvzf gkrellm-2.0.tar.gz ( Will unzip the package to a new directory gkrellm-2.0 ) Note: for .tar.bz2 packages we do < tar -xvjf >, for .tgz packages < tar -xvfz > # ls ( Check the name of the new directory, it might be gkrellm2 ) # mv gkrellm-2.0 /usr/src ( Will move it to your sources directory ) # cd /usr/src/gkrellm-2.0 ( Will put you right inside the directory ) # ls ( Will list all the files in the directory ) IMPORTANT: Do read all relevant files like README and INSTALL they contain essential info about dependencies and install instructions. If no special install instructions are given: CODE $ ./configure ( That is dot slash configure )If any errors occur during the configure process read the config.log, see what went wrong. If it misses a special lib file, see if the file is installed, if not install it and start again. If it is installed but the script can't find it consult the troubleshoot section below. If configure did not report any errors: CODE $ make ( Might take some time ) $ su < password > # make install ( bingo ! ) Ctrl+d ( back to normal user ) $ cd ( back to home directory ) In the last few lines printed to your screen, make install will tell you where to find the executable, relevant files and doc's. Note this down it saves you searching for it as you want to change the config file for the program. If the compiling was successful you can now run the program by typing "gkrellm" at the prompt. ( most likely the executable will be in your path" /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin ) If you like, you can remove the sources if you're done "rm -rf gkrellm-2.0" but if you've got enough space on your HD just leave it there, makes a re-install ( only "make" and "make install" ) easy. Well if you're still there with me, BRAVO ! -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2003, 05:22 PM
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![]() Australisches Googler Group: Forum Admins Posts: 11,047 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Virginia Member No.: 100 |
Great tips Bruno!
I love Midnight Commander (mc) it really is the Miracle Commander in commandline! -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2003, 05:24 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
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Apr 26 2003, 07:50 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
( just to keep you all interested :
TOPICS STILL ON THE AGENDA Multi Media Keys under Linux ( tomorrow ! ) Tweaking the prompt File permissions Md5sum and iso's Autostart programs at boot Bash script Brief introduction to C More suggestions anyone ??? -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2003, 08:49 PM
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![]() Forum Fiend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,864 Joined: 23-March 03 From: Victoria Member No.: 361 |
Any use for the Window's key apart from sticking a small picture of a penguin on it? Joy -------------------- Registered Linux user No:315009 Registered SANE Linux User No:2
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Apr 26 2003, 08:55 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
QUOTE (Bruno @ Apr 27 2003, 01:50 AM) Multi Media Keys under Linux ( tomorrow ! ) Greengeek: this includes the "windows"-key -------------------- |
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Apr 27 2003, 01:14 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
MULTI MEDIA KEYS IN LINUX
NOTE: Described here are actions for Mandrake, it will work for other distro's too, but names may be slightly different. INTRO: These are the 4 steps: 1) use xev for getting the keycodes, 2) make a script mapping the keys, 3) make a new directory in the startmenu for odd actions, and 4) use kmenuedit to assign the keys to entries in the startmenu. 1) Open a console and type < xev > ( if nothing comes up, install xev: < urpmi xev > or < urpmi X11R6-contrib > ) xev will open a window, look for the line: state 0x10, keycode 116 (keysym 0xff20, Multi_key), same_screen YES, Now press a key and note down the keycode, repeat this for every key you want to assign an action to ( also volume up/down, right and left "windows" key, logitech-key, any key on your board ! ) A total of 22 Multi Media keys can be mapped. 2) Next step is making a text file in the autostart directory of your window manager ( or put the lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.local ) CODE $ vi /home/bruno/.kde/Autostart/multikeys ( replace "bruno", dot kde ) < i > ( to get vi in insert mode ) This is the text for that file: QUOTE #!/bin/bash xmodmap -e 'keycode 116=F13' xmodmap -e 'keycode 229=F14' xmodmap -e 'keycode 236=F15' xmodmap -e 'keycode 178=F16' etc. ( you can use F13 - F35 ) #End script < Esc > ( vi back to command mode ) < ZZ > ( save the file and close ) CODE # chmod 0755 /home/bruno/.kde/Autostart/multikeys ( change permissions for the file ) 3) Specialy for actions like volume up/down, mute, reboot etc. we have to make a new section in the startmenu: ( mail and browser are already in the menu ) CODE $ menudrake I made a new directory in "amusement", "toys", called multikeys The entries made in that directory are: Volume up ( Title ) < aumix -v+10 > ( Command ) Volume down < aumix -v-10 > Mute < aumix -v-50 > Fwd < xmms -f > Rew < xmms -r > Play/pause < xmms -m -t > Stop xmms < xmms -s > Reboot < shutdown -r now > ( in MDK 9.1: < reboot > ) Sleep < xset dpms force standby > Shutdown < shutdown -h now > ( in MDK 9.1 < halt > ) Screensaver < dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface save > Lock Screen < dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock > ( for more commands see < kdocp > ) Now SAVE menudrake ! 4) In a console type: CODE $ kmenuedit This will bring up a different menu-tool, with in the left pane the entries in the startmenu and down to the right the hotkey assignment. Simply select the "program" on the left, press: current key "none" and you will get a dialog, press the multi-key you want it associated with, press apply, and you're ready for the fun of your fancy keys. ( Don't forget your mail and browser ) In kmenuedit you can set any key combination to your favorite programs ( Alt+x for xine, Alt+h for home, Alt+g for gimp, etc. Warning: the Ctrl key is already used for many shortcuts, see Control Center --> Look and Feel --> Shortcuts for a complete list. ) TIP: Get your console under an easy key too. After all it is your most used app !! -------------------- |
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Apr 27 2003, 06:20 PM
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![]() Forum Fiend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,864 Joined: 23-March 03 From: Victoria Member No.: 361 |
Thankyou Bruno, at last some use for those Window's keys! Joy -------------------- Registered Linux user No:315009 Registered SANE Linux User No:2
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Apr 27 2003, 07:02 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
@ Greengeek:
Did you get the stickers ? Send me some . . . . . LOL Glad you're happy ! -------------------- |
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Apr 27 2003, 07:11 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
A ( tiny ) KEYBOARD TIP
If you want to be able to: ~ " ` ' ^ ´ ¨ change your keyboard settings to "us international" The only downside is that you'll have to press the key twice in order to get ~ " ` ^ ´ . or press the " followed by a space to get the accent print to screen. There is even a clear difference between ¨ and " . . the first is pressed twice and the second is the same key pressed once followed by a space . . . ( only pressing the " prints nothing to screen ) -------------------- |
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Apr 27 2003, 07:20 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
SHORTHAND
CODE $ cd .. ( Is shorthand for go back one step in the directory tree )CODE $ cd ~ ( Is for /home/bruno, if you got more then one user ~bruno or ~anna ) CODE $ cd ~/Downloads/Backgrounds ( Is for /home/bruno/Downloads/Backgrounds )For really fast typing don't forget the tab-key for autocompletion: CODE $ cd ~/D "tab-key" /B "tab-key" ( Will give the same as above. )-------------------- |
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Apr 27 2003, 08:16 PM
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![]() Australisches Googler Group: Forum Admins Posts: 11,047 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Virginia Member No.: 100 |
Another tip for the cd command:
Just type cd at any command prompt and it will take you directly to your /home/username/ directory (meaning the username you used to log in) ... no muss, no fuss -------------------- |
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Apr 28 2003, 12:09 AM
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![]() Discussion Deity ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,876 Joined: 9-March 03 From: North Dakota Member No.: 3 |
Hey guys and gals these are great tips - keep em coming, I have learned lots of neat tricks.
Does uprmi work for RH too? - I use apt-get with RedHat -------------------- |
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Apr 28 2003, 01:02 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
NOTE FROM THE EDITOR:
Looking up a specific topic is made easy: I'm editting an up to date index in the first post on this thread. -------------------- |
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Apr 28 2003, 01:49 PM
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![]() Le Professeur Pingouin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Emeritus Posts: 37,904 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Amsterdam Member No.: 611 |
PARTITIONS
There have been several questions in other threads about partitions. LilBambi gave some good suggestions, let me try to make an overview: For the current situation on your HD: CODE $ df -h ( partitions their sizes and space usage ) Do note down on what hda? lives what partition, this might come in handy at re-install, repartition and crash recovery. ( hda is the first HD, hdb the second, hdc the third etc. etc. hda1 is the first primary partition, hda5 the first logical partition on the first HD ) Everything in one partition is not a good idea, at least you should have a separate /home partition and give it space enough to grow. The clever thing about a /home partition is that when you do a re-install or upgrade you can leave it as it is, saving all your personal settings, mail, addressbook etc. The minimum number of partitions and their size are ( if you have 5G to spare and full install of modern distro ) : 3 G for / 1+ G for the /home partition 500 MB for the /swap ( more swap is waste ) ( Sure you can do with a lot less, some distro's are happy with -500MB and still have X ) A more comfortable partition table is ( 10G to spare ): 5 G for / 4+ G for /home 500 MB for /swap A "deluxe" and more complicated partition table is ( 15+ to spare ): 2 G for / 4 G for /usr 1 G for /var ( a lot of writing is done in the /var/log's ) 500 MB for /swap 5+ G for /home 7+ G for /backup ( storage ) Any extra space could be added to /home and /backup. Thanks to LilBambi NOTE: An important note from Prelude76: QUOTE SuSE users should have a fairly large /opt partition, as this is where most 3rd party apps get installed.
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